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    ONE POTATO! TWO POTATO! THREE POTATO! CUCUMBER!

    Just a little status update from the NCC Guys!


    1. We are still working on NCC
    2. We are still getting things accomplished and are moving forward
    3. We are aware that people on Discord are really strange people, and some are downright scary
    4. NST is not our enemy and never will be
    5. Gnisha burnt the cupcakes
    6. Camarogue let it happen
    7. Atlas is locked in the basement and ordered to create new and fresh memes for you all
    8. Therenall is lost in a land of code and doesn't have the money to get a bus ticket back to us
    9. Wizard took the netcode and sold it to the Russians for votes in next years election
    10. Lykos has become feral and lives in the main sewers under Neocron
    11. 8-9 may not be true
    12. I enjoy making numbered lists



    That is about all we have for you this time around folks. We are making progress on fixing the remaining epics and getting vendors whipped into shape. We will announce when we need some serious testing done but please keep the threads in the bug report forum up to date with the latest bugs and their status.

    Thanks!
    Last edited by Atlas; 08-03-2017 at 01:39 PM. Reason: Edited for truth
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    Is there currently any work on-going to get classic player models back? Not pestering; just really curious if there is any status update on this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackMaze View Post
    Is there currently any work on-going to get classic player models back? Not pestering; just really curious if there is any status update on this one
    Kinda. The thing is i have to use the NC2 skeleton, otherwise some animations could end up being broken. Additionally we would loose the customization options.

    So, chopping the NC1 models into pieces and using the NC2 system won't work.

    I've attached an early WIP screenshot Lykos did back in June.
    Currently the plan is to recreate all character meshes, while trying to stay true to the NC1 style ( with some addidtional cam flavour of course).

    WIP_2017-6-14.png

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    Is it not possible to use the old NC1 skeleton and NC1 animations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camarogue View Post
    Kinda. The thing is i have to use the NC2 skeleton, otherwise some animations could end up being broken. Additionally we would loose the customization options.

    So, chopping the NC1 models into pieces and using the NC2 system won't work.

    I've attached an early WIP screenshot Lykos did back in June.
    Currently the plan is to recreate all character meshes, while trying to stay true to the NC1 style ( with some addidtional cam flavour of course).

    WIP_2017-6-14.png
    So you are no longer working to restore the NC 1 Skeletons and animations at all? I think most people would rather have them back instead of having NC 2 customization options on some kind of reskin.
    How poorly the NC 2 player models suit the rest of the game was one of the things that alway stuck in my head as such a horrible change and not having the classic models back will really kill the nostalga feel even if you get the rest of the game perfect.

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    I think there may have been some misunderstanding, or I've misunderstood.

    We're not giving up on the Neocron 1 Player Models, we're just having to basically rebuild them from scratch using the newer skeleton. While this means they won't be 100% exact as the Neocron 1 models, they'll still be a huge improvement over the Neocron 2 models, while preserving a NC1 feel.

    I've put together this comparison for the NC1, NC2, and our WIP Tank Model.

    tankmodel_comparison.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnisha View Post
    I think there may have been some misunderstanding, or I've misunderstood.

    We're not giving up on the Neocron 1 Player Models, we're just having to basically rebuild them from scratch using the newer skeleton. While this means they won't be 100% exact as the Neocron 1 models, they'll still be a huge improvement over the Neocron 2 models, while preserving a NC1 feel.

    I've put together this comparison for the NC1, NC2, and our WIP Tank Model.

    tankmodel_comparison.png
    damn what a ugly tank can we see a video of his movement skills ? :P

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    Lykos coming at you from a technical source standpoint...

    So when they created the NC2 models etc. they completely changed how animations and such work. It went from one solid model to 3 pieces, this is why you saw the famous PE without a chest.

    In our attempts to bring back the NC1 models we had to rip out large upgraded portions of code (lol upgraded...) and it was really a giant step backwards.

    Cam is working on trying to get things back to the NC1 style of model so that you can all run around with original looking models, while preserving this updated code and allowing some extra customization.

    With this customization, we could do say... a beefy tank...a medium build tank... a super skinny spy? A pudgy spy? A FAT MONK?!

    Either way, Cam is having to play god here with these models and it will take time. We promise that we won't release a blunder butter fuck upon the people @Camarogue has a great eye for detail and the final products will be of the highest quality.
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    just figure it out nerds

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    Christ, those pictures make the updated model pants look like the tank has a diaper on under them...
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